From ki4nbe at yahoo.com Thu May 5 16:08:14 2011 From: ki4nbe at yahoo.com (George Gafford Sr) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [LakelandARC] LARC Radio Net, 5/5/2011, 7:00 pm In-Reply-To: <1304629075.554.10343.m11@yahoogroups.com> References: <1304629075.554.10343.m11@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <596315.95606.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 73 de George/KI4NBE ________________________________ From: "LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com" To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 4:57:55 PM Subject: [LakelandARC] LARC Radio Net, 5/5/2011, 7:00 pm Reminder from: LakelandARC Yahoo! Group Title: LARC Radio Net Date: Thursday May 5, 2011 Time: 7:00 pm - 8:30 pm Repeats: This event repeats every week. Location: K4LKL Repeater Notes: 146.685 MHz, negative offset, CTCSS tone 127.3 Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options Copyright ? 2011 Yahoo! Inc. 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The FCC is authorized by the > Communications Act of 1934 (as amended) to collect vanity call sign > fees to recover the costs associated with that program. > > The vanity call sign regulatory fee is payable not only when > applying for a new vanity call sign, but also upon renewing a vanity > call sign for a new term. Instructions on how to comment on this > NPRM are available on the FCC Web site at, > http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/howtocomment.html. > > The vanity call sign fee has fluctuated over the 14 years of the > current program -- from a low of $11.70 in 2007 to a high of $70 (as > first proposed in the FCC's 1994 Report and Order). In 2007, the > Commission lowered the fee from $20.80 to $11.70. The FCC said it > anticipates some 14,600 Amateur Radio vanity call sign "payment > units" or applications during the next fiscal year. > > The vanity call sign regulatory fee is payable not only when > applying for a new vanity call sign, but also upon renewing a vanity > call sign for a new term. The first vanity call sign licenses issued > under the current Amateur Radio vanity call sign program that began > in 1996 came up for renewal five years ago. > > Those holding vanity call signs issued prior to 1996 are exempt from > having to pay the vanity call sign regulatory fee at renewal, > however. That's because Congress did not authorize the FCC to > collect regulatory fees until 1993. Such "heritage" vanity call sign > holders do not appear as vanity licensees in the FCC Amateur Radio > database. > > Amateur Radio licensees may file for renewal only within 90 days of > their license expiration date. All radio amateurs must have an FCC > Registration Number (FRN) before filing any application with the > Commission. Applicants can obtain an FRN by going to the ULS at, > http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=home, and clicking on the > "New Users Register" link. You must supply your Social Security > Number to obtain an FRN. > NNNN > /EX From kg4yni at arrl.net Mon May 9 15:04:39 2011 From: kg4yni at arrl.net (Ernie) Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 18:04:39 -0400 Subject: Young ham-radio operator: Deltona girl, 8, among youngest ham-radio operators to get FCC license - OrlandoSentinel.com Message-ID: <3B9EA399FAFE41E0A066D95CEE7D09B1@kg4ynixp> http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/volusia/os-ham-radio-deltona-girl-20110507,0,3752897.story -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope she finds the K4LKL Repeater and checks in with us soon. 73 de George/KI4NBE ________________________________ From: Ernie To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 6:04:39 PM Subject: [LakelandARC] Young ham-radio operator: Deltona girl, 8, among youngest ham-radio operators to get FCC license - OrlandoSentinel.com http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/volusia/os-ham-radio-deltona-girl-20110507,0,3752897.story -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kt2t at arrl.net Tue May 17 15:45:59 2011 From: kt2t at arrl.net (kt2t_radio) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:45:59 -0000 Subject: Picnic Cancelled for 2011-05-21 Message-ID: Hi folks, Due to a lack of perceived interest the picnic for 2011-05-21 (this coming Saturday) has been cancelled. As is usual, there is nothing stopping any of you from spontaneously congregating at a coordinated location to "ham it up", it's just that the LARC won't be a coordinator for a picnic this coming weekend. 73, Mike, KT2T From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Tue May 17 21:48:08 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 04:48:08 -0000 Subject: test equipment for rf analysis Message-ID: Greetings I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Wed May 18 05:59:24 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:59:24 -0400 Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis References: Message-ID: Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis Greetings I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Wed May 18 06:59:34 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:59:34 -0000 Subject: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Thu May 19 11:08:24 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:08:24 -0400 Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: Message-ID: Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Thu May 19 15:19:01 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 18:19:01 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gwmann at verizon.net Fri May 20 13:48:30 2011 From: gwmann at verizon.net (george mann) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:48:30 -0400 Subject: Timely sale from Radio Shack -Soldering Iron Message-ID: <77F198D9C21F4A199F207AD011B5DC4D@your4dacd0ea75> Attention kit builders! 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King (R-NY) to discuss his recent proposed legislation, HR 607, and > its impact on Amateur Radio. > > Congressman King said that he fully understands and appreciates the > importance of Amateur Radio and the service it provides to the community, > and that he would see to the modification of the bill so that the 420 - 440 MHz > band would be excluded from the spectrum to be auctioned. The delegation included > Mike Lisenco, N2YBB, ARRL Section Manager for New York City / Long Island (NLI), > Peter Portanova, WB2OQQ, NLI Local Government Liaison (LGL), George Tranos, > N2GA, NLI State Government Liaison (SGL), and Jim Mezey, W2KFV, NLI ARES > Section Emergency Coordinator (SEC). > > "The Congressman went on to explain that it was never his intention to remove > the 70 centimeter band from Amateur use. He further asked us to `get the word > out' and inform the Amateur Radio community that 70 centimeters is not in jeopardy," > said Lisenco. > > Lisenco, Mezey and Tranos spoke about the importance of Amateur Radio emergency > communications while Portanova, who is also the local AMSAT representative, addressed > satellite and other amateur use of the 70 centimeter band. > > The Congressman was very receptive to the group, who also extended an invitation to > attend Field Day locations in his District. > > > _______________________________________________ > DailyDX mailing list From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sat May 21 08:58:30 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 08:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <653510.62050.qm@web121712.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sat May 21 20:36:14 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 20:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Message-ID: <522639.96225.qm@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try?? Mike ? ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 21 20:53:18 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 23:53:18 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: <522639.96225.qm@web121714.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <25BF3EF399CD477EB890E75C4615F1CB@phillk3sbik9xb> Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try? Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'. I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work. I own both and therefore can mod both. I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic. Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n H30000506. The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... Mike KJ4UKY --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sun May 22 07:45:16 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 07:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: <25BF3EF399CD477EB890E75C4615F1CB@phillk3sbik9xb> Message-ID: <266803.706.qm@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> I'm in N. lakeland, you?? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends.? Mike ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try?? Mike ? ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Sun May 22 13:53:17 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 16:53:17 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: <266803.706.qm@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03E8430228734F259C7B95BBB9211E05@phillk3sbik9xb> Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis I'm in N. lakeland, you? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends. Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try? Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'. I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work. I own both and therefore can mod both. I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic. Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n H30000506. The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... Mike KJ4UKY --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kg4yni at arrl.net Wed May 25 09:40:36 2011 From: kg4yni at arrl.net (Ernie) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:40:36 -0400 Subject: Tower work , References: Message-ID: Hi Ken, I personally do not know of anyone who does tower work but I am forwarding this to the club Yahoo group. Hopefully someone will be able to either help or find someone who can. 73, Ernie KG4YNI ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken & Belinda Maddux To: kg4yni at arrl.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Tower work , I am trying to get back in to ham radio have been off air for few years, due to location, and physical health, and finances, Have got me a house, and got me a EZ way 40 ft crank up tower, have all my radio equipment needed. But need someone to put up tower and antenna. I have in the past been very active in radio, ( Mars, Maritime Mobile Net Director ) and several other clubs. Do to Disability can not climb anymore, and do not have a lot of extra money, So was looking for someone fair and honest. Please call if you can . Thanks Ken Maddux KD4TXK Home 1-863-647-1846 Cell 1-863-514-3471 PS Has there been a lot of traffic because of all the storm ? I figured that it might be. 73' s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully someone will be able to either help or find someone who can. 73, Ernie KG4YNI ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken & Belinda Maddux To: kg4yni at arrl.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Tower work , I am trying to get back in to ham radio have been off air for few years, due to location, and physical health, and finances, Have got me a house, and got me a EZ way 40 ft crank up tower, have all my radio equipment needed. But need someone to put up tower and antenna. I have in the past been very active in radio, ( Mars, Maritime Mobile Net Director ) and several other clubs. Do to Disability can not climb anymore, and do not have a lot of extra money, So was looking for someone fair and honest. Please call if you can . Thanks Ken Maddux KD4TXK Home 1-863-647-1846 Cell 1-863-514-3471 PS Has there been a lot of traffic because of all the storm ? I figured that it might be. 73' s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Mike.Parrish at verizon.net Wed May 25 19:20:49 2011 From: Mike.Parrish at verizon.net (mike.parrish@verizon.net) Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:20:49 -0400 Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: Tower work , In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <152767c5-8f25-41e1-9b42-f87f35012828@blur> Try 863 528 8844 Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: ki4dno To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 22:47:47 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: Tower work , Ken, You should contact David Duke KI4OYX in Frostproof. He has a commercial tower business and has done work for Polk County and the NI4CE group. I don't remember the name his tower business nor do I have a contact number to pass on. Maybe someone in the Lake Wales club will have additional information on David. Hope this will help. 73, Larry Walker KI4DNO In a message dated 05/25/11 12:40:44 Eastern Daylight Time, kg4yni at arrl.net writes: Hi Ken, I personally do not know of anyone who does tower work but I am forwarding this to the club Yahoo group. Hopefully someone will be able to either help or find someone who can. 73, Ernie KG4YNI ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken & Belinda Maddux To: kg4yni at arrl.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Tower work , I am trying to get back in to ham radio have been off air for few years, due to location, and physical health, and finances, Have got me a house, and got me a EZ way 40 ft crank up tower, have all my radio equipment needed. But need someone to put up tower and antenna. I have in the past been very active in radio, ( Mars, Maritime Mobile Net Director ) and several other clubs. Do to Disability can not climb anymore, and do not have a lot of extra money, So was looking for someone fair and honest. Please call if you can . Thanks Ken Maddux KD4TXK Home 1-863-647-1846 Cell 1-863-514-3471 PS Has there been a lot of traffic because of all the storm ? I figured that it might be. 73' s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Fri May 27 17:52:18 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:52:18 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: <266803.706.qm@web121720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <03E8430228734F259C7B95BBB9211E05@phillk3sbik9xb> Message-ID: <7A89BD999EA34E219B3865D51B09F11B@phillk3sbik9xb> Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis I'm in N. lakeland, you? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends. Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try? Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'. I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work. I own both and therefore can mod both. I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic. Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n H30000506. The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... Mike KJ4UKY --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kd4efm1 at verizon.net Fri May 27 22:53:55 2011 From: kd4efm1 at verizon.net (Evans F Mitchell KD4EFM / WQFK894) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 01:53:55 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap Up Meeting Message-ID: <4DE08DF3.70603@verizon.net> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap Up Meeting Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:58:21 +0000 From: Cody Yerian Good afternoon all!!! I cannot believe Bike has already come and gone...it sure came up quickly and went by just as fast. I hope you all were able to get some much deserved relaxation after the ride. I have been reading the emails coming in about the event and what our riders thought of it...I only read the good ones! Just kidding... Here are some of the comments from Bike MS: 2011: "WOW, what an amazing weekend. Thank you for all your support and dedication to make this Bike MS a special one. I hope you don't mind, but I would like to share my unique view of the weekend. This is my third ride as a cyclist, second as a VIB, first as a Ride Marshal and first as a SAG. My team, Team MS: Missy's Supporters, and I rode the century on Saturday (another first for me!) through all the rain, thunderstorms, wind, and heat. The road and rest stop support was amazing! As a Ride Marshal, it was a privilege to assist several of my fellow cyclists by contacting net control for mechanical support. On Sunday, as you all know, the weather was sketchy and my team decided better safe than sorry and not ride the 50. My wife Missy (who has MS and the reason for my team name) and I decided to assist as a last minute extra HAM/SAG vehicle. What a fantastic and eye-opening experience. As a rider, I knew there were SAG, Medical, Shadow and Motorcycle support but I did not fathom all the coordination that goes on behind the scene. Everyone did such a wonderful job. Missy and I are honored to be a part of the 2011 Bike MS: The Citrus Tour." "Thank you all! Riders, fundraisers, volunteers, club members who trained us up and cheered us on from afar. I just got off the phone with my Dad, Denny, who was here last year for the finish. He was in awe, once again this year, at our efforts to fight the disease that took his wife, my Mom, last February. Congrats to you all. Thanks to you all!" "Congratulations on a tremendous event! My team... "Very Attractive People on a Ride" really loved it and we were all first timers... the only thing to do to improve it would have been to get rid of that wind on day 2!" "I wanted to write you and let you know what a great job you did, yet again!! Even through the rain, hail, and possible flying cow, you pulled off another amazing bike tour!! Thank you for all your hard work! You helped make my 40th birthday an amazing birthday that I will never forget!!! Thanks again for all you do!" As I read these emails I immediately think of all of you I hope you guys realize just how big this event is...I'm not talking about big to the Society, but big to our riders. I witness the magnitude of this event every time I speak to our riders...why they ride, who they ride for, how long they've been riding, how they got started and what motivates them to continue to ride. The impact this event has on our riders was created by YOU. You all should be very proud of the event you've helped create and grow, because its success lies within all of you. A simple thank you cannot express how appreciative and grateful I am, and the Society is, to have such a wonderful committee that has turned into a family...we certainly see each other enough!haha. Sincere thanks for all that you do to make Bike MS such an amazing experience for so many people - cyclists, teams, other volunteers, families, friends and people living with multiple sclerosis. I would like to schedule our Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap up Meeting for Wednesday, June 8^th at the Outback Steakhouse in Plant City at 6:30pm. The Outback Steakhouse is located right off of I-4. Here's the address... Outback Steakhouse 1203 Townsgate Court Plant City, FL 33566 *An assortment of appetizers and non-alcoholic drinks will be available for the meeting.* ** *Please let me know if you are able to attend so I can reserve the space! I'm sure we can fill a room quickly! I will send out a meeting request to everyone once I get a better idea of how many are able to make it. My cell phone is up and running again so please use 727.422.1258 if you need to reach me outside of 9-5pm.* *Thanks!!!* ** *Cody Yerian **Development Manager* *National Multiple Sclerosis Society** *Mid Florida Chapter 4919 Memorial Highway Tampa, FL 33634* *Tel (813) 889-8363 ext.201 Fax (813) 889-8313 JOIN THE MOVEMENT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From laurapennington42 at gmail.com Sat May 28 00:20:30 2011 From: laurapennington42 at gmail.com (Laura Pennington) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 03:20:30 -0400 Subject: [LakelandARC] Fwd: Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap Up Meeting In-Reply-To: <4DE08DF3.70603@verizon.net> References: <4DE08DF3.70603@verizon.net> Message-ID: Hi All, While the heartfelt thanks and appreciation contained in the email below are to be passed along to everyone who partipated in the BikeMS event, the Committee wrap-up meeting information only applies to the planning Committee members. A follow-up meeting for all the radio volunteers can be scheduled at a later date if there seems to be interest in doing so. Thank You again, and sorry for any confusion! Laura On May 28, 2011 1:54 AM, "Evans F Mitchell KD4EFM / WQFK894" < kd4efm1 at verizon.net> wrote: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap Up Meeting > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 20:58:21 +0000 > From: Cody Yerian > > > > > > Good afternoon all!!! > > I cannot believe Bike has already come and gone...it sure came up > quickly and went by just as fast. I hope you all were able to get some > much deserved relaxation after the ride. I have been reading the emails > coming in about the event and what our riders thought of it...I only > read the good ones! Just kidding... > > Here are some of the comments from Bike MS: 2011: > > "WOW, what an amazing weekend. Thank you for all your support and > dedication to make this Bike MS a special one. > > I hope you don't mind, but I would like to share my unique view of the > weekend. This is my third ride as a cyclist, second as a VIB, first as > a Ride Marshal and first as a SAG. My team, Team MS: Missy's > Supporters, and I rode the century on Saturday (another first for me!) > through all the rain, thunderstorms, wind, and heat. The road and rest > stop support was amazing! As a Ride Marshal, it was a privilege to > assist several of my fellow cyclists by contacting net control for > mechanical support. > > On Sunday, as you all know, the weather was sketchy and my team decided > better safe than sorry and not ride the 50. My wife Missy (who has MS > and the reason for my team name) and I decided to assist as a last > minute extra HAM/SAG vehicle. What a fantastic and eye-opening > experience. As a rider, I knew there were SAG, Medical, Shadow and > Motorcycle support but I did not fathom all the coordination that goes > on behind the scene. Everyone did such a wonderful job. Missy and I are > honored to be a part of the 2011 Bike MS: The Citrus Tour." > > "Thank you all! Riders, fundraisers, volunteers, club members who > trained us up and cheered us on from afar. I just got off the phone > with my Dad, Denny, who was here last year for the finish. He was in > awe, once again this year, at our efforts to fight the disease that took > his wife, my Mom, last February. Congrats to you all. Thanks to you all!" > > "Congratulations on a tremendous event! My team... "Very Attractive > People on a Ride" really loved it and we were all first timers... the > only thing to do to improve it would have been to get rid of that wind > on day 2!" > > > "I wanted to write you and let you know what a great job you did, yet > again!! > Even through the rain, hail, and possible flying cow, you pulled off > another amazing bike tour!! > Thank you for all your hard work! You helped make my 40th birthday an > amazing birthday that I will never forget!!! > Thanks again for all you do!" > > As I read these emails I immediately think of all of you > > I hope you guys realize just how big this event is...I'm not talking > about big to the Society, but big to our riders. I witness the > magnitude of this event every time I speak to our riders...why they > ride, who they ride for, how long they've been riding, how they got > started and what motivates them to continue to ride. The impact this > event has on our riders was created by YOU. You all should be very > proud of the event you've helped create and grow, because its success > lies within all of you. A simple thank you cannot express how > appreciative and grateful I am, and the Society is, to have such a > wonderful committee that has turned into a family...we certainly see > each other enough!haha. Sincere thanks for all that you do to make > Bike MS such an amazing experience for so many people - cyclists, teams, > other volunteers, families, friends and people living with multiple > sclerosis. > > I would like to schedule our Bike MS: The Citrus Tour Wrap up Meeting > for Wednesday, June 8^th at the Outback Steakhouse in Plant City at > 6:30pm. The Outback Steakhouse is located right off of I-4. > > Here's the address... > > Outback Steakhouse > > 1203 Townsgate Court > Plant City, FL 33566 > > *An assortment of appetizers and non-alcoholic drinks will be available > for the meeting.* > > ** > > *Please let me know if you are able to attend so I can reserve the > space! I'm sure we can fill a room quickly! I will send out a meeting > request to everyone once I get a better idea of how many are able to > make it. My cell phone is up and running again so please use > 727.422.1258 if you need to reach me outside of 9-5pm.* > > *Thanks!!!* > > ** > > *Cody Yerian > **Development Manager* > *National Multiple Sclerosis Society** > *Mid Florida Chapter > 4919 Memorial Highway > Tampa, FL 33634* > *Tel (813) 889-8363 ext.201 > Fax (813) 889-8313 > > > > JOIN THE MOVEMENT > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sat May 28 04:45:10 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 04:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: <7A89BD999EA34E219B3865D51B09F11B@phillk3sbik9xb> Message-ID: <553109.16966.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Phil I'm heading over to the other coast this morning.? I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss. Mike ? --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM ? ? Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? I'm in N. lakeland, you?? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends.? Mike ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try?? Mike ? ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sat May 28 04:52:35 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 04:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: <553109.16966.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <154558.1605.qm@web121711.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Phil I sent a message directly to your tampabay.rr.com account last Sunday at 9:36pm, did you get that one?? Mike ? --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 7:45 AM ? Phil I'm heading over to the other coast this morning.? I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss. Mike ? --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM ? ? Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? I'm in N. lakeland, you?? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends.? Mike ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try?? Mike ? ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 28 06:48:42 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 09:48:42 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: <553109.16966.qm@web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1532A94041E04134A32030235D0BC2BD@phillk3sbik9xb> ok ...give me a call...Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I'm heading over to the other coast this morning. I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss. Mike --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM ? Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis I'm in N. lakeland, you? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends. Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try? Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'. I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work. I own both and therefore can mod both. I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic. Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n H30000506. The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... Mike KJ4UKY --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mostsigbit at yahoo.com Sat May 28 07:47:49 2011 From: mostsigbit at yahoo.com (Mike Phillips) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 07:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis In-Reply-To: <1532A94041E04134A32030235D0BC2BD@phillk3sbik9xb> Message-ID: <977023.87277.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Phil I've sent two messages directly to the account you are posting from, are you getting messages there?? k4bhe at tampa...... Mike- KJ4UKY ? --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 9:48 AM ? ? ok ...give me a call...Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Phil I'm heading over to the other coast this morning.? I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss. Mike ? --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM ? ? Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? I'm in N. lakeland, you?? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends.? Mike ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try?? Mike ? ? --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'.? I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work.? I own both and therefore can mod both.? I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. ? I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic.? Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n? H30000506.? The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... ? Mike KJ4UKY ?? ? --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf? 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com Sat May 28 07:52:54 2011 From: k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com (Phil Dentler) Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 10:52:54 -0400 Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis References: <977023.87277.qm@web121713.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <53D0F1D31BF44D4EAB9A19C070186467@phillk3sbik9xb> I am getting them at my regular email address....cell 644-0525 Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've sent two messages directly to the account you are posting from, are you getting messages there? k4bhe at tampa...... Mike- KJ4UKY --- On Sat, 5/28/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 9:48 AM ? ok ...give me a call...Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I'm heading over to the other coast this morning. I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss. Mike --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM ? Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis ? Mike just off county line road just south of I-4....Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis I'm in N. lakeland, you? I'm a working stiff, so I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on weekends. Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM ? Mike...just getting home from a show I ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Phillips To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Phil I've got two scanners, but they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to since it is marked UHF. I've got a handheld transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any transmission ranges to the receiver. Thanks for your help so far, any else I could try? Mike --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Mike Phillips wrote: From: Mike Phillips Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM Phil Sorry for the delayed response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean conflicting, I thought I posted in the original message these are 'incompatible'. I want to know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em work. I own both and therefore can mod both. I observe the mic appears to have a jtag interface. I suspect the single rx/tx channel combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a harmonic. Thanks for the info about the freqs, the receiver is s/n H30000506. The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or s/n C3003792. I'll try to play with the mic with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know why I didn't think of that... Mike KJ4UKY --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler wrote: From: Phil Dentler Subject: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:19 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Dentler To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Mike more info on the Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and called him......The eairlier series used Vhf 170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most part. Triple check the model and also the serial number is the key to nailing down what you have.....next step is yours....Phil K4BHE ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis Thanks for responding Phil, here's the info I have on the Anchor equipment; The receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to wireless channel 9. The transmitter is a hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. With the mic set to channel 4, with the equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the receiver and it will demodulate audio as expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too well and will lose the lock often depending on mic orientation. I cannot find any meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but a call to their support revealed these are not intended to be compatible. I don't know if the incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', modulation technique, or carrier. I don't have physical access to the drive-in equipment, but swear to myself every time I visit the drive-in that I will bring up the topic here, and finally I'm getting around to it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd just like to give the signal a look-see to see if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've simply never had a good experience trying to tune their signal from various locations on the property using a variety of FM receivers. I figure if I have problems, everyone else probably does too. Mike Phillips KJ4UKY --- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, "Phil Dentler" wrote: > > Mike...good morning.....I can help you with both.....I need to know the channel code on both pieces.....this will tell us everything we need to know about the pieces then we will know the next move....I have a optoelectronics near field receiver that is used on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter that you want to see is probably a Ramsy product. I install these and set them up also. What is the model number and I can tell you your next move on that also. Phil K4BHE > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 AM > Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment for rf analysis > > > > Greetings > > I've got a 16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same company that are incompatible according to the mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a single channel where they kinda work, but not too good. > I'd like to look at the signals and try to figure out what's going on. All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help figure this out? > A separate project; I'd really also like to look at the FM signal for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over modulation, but would really like to look at the signal. > > Mike Phillips > KJ4UKY > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wb4lca at yahoo.com Sun May 29 23:40:24 2011 From: wb4lca at yahoo.com (wb4lca) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 06:40:24 -0000 Subject: Happy Memorial Day! Message-ID: Happy memorial day to all our service men and women. My father was a radio operator in the 8th(B-17) and 9th(B-26) Army Air Corps-total 63 missions, needless to say he could do Morse code in his sleep. His silent key I adopted as my own "WB4LCA". From kg4yni at arrl.net Mon May 30 04:41:18 2011 From: kg4yni at arrl.net (Ernie) Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:41:18 -0400 Subject: [LakelandARC] Happy Memorial Day! References: Message-ID: <939743F165DC488AA717399BB5C11060@kg4ynixp> Thanks Biff, I can think of no greater way to pay tribute to any silent key. Happy Memorial Day to you also. Ernie KG4YNI ----- Original Message ----- From: wb4lca To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM Subject: [LakelandARC] Happy Memorial Day! Happy memorial day to all our service men and women. My father was a radio operator in the 8th(B-17) and 9th(B-26) Army Air Corps-total 63 missions, needless to say he could do Morse code in his sleep. His silent key I adopted as my own "WB4LCA". -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: