Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis

Mike Phillips mostsigbit at yahoo.com
Sat May 28 04:52:35 PDT 2011


Phil 
I sent a message directly to your tampabay.rr.com account last Sunday at 9:36pm, did you get that one?  

Mike
  

--- On Sat, 5/28/11, Mike Phillips <mostsigbit at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mike Phillips <mostsigbit at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis
To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 7:45 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Phil

I'm heading over to the other coast this morning.  I'm not real sure of my plans for the rest of the weekend, let me give you a call a little later to discuss.

Mike
  

--- On Fri, 5/27/11, Phil Dentler <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

From: Phil Dentler <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis
To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:52 PM







 



    
      
      
      


Mike....good evening....If you still want to bring 
the wireless mic out,saturday can be a good time....let me know...you can call 
me at 813-764-8080....waiting a reply....Phil k4bhe

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Phil 
  Dentler 
  To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test 
  equipment for rf analysis
  
  
  
   
  Mike just off county line road just south of 
  I-4....Phil
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mike 
    Phillips 
    To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 
    
    Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:45 
    AM
    Subject: Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test 
    equipment for rf analysis
    
  
    
    
    
      
      
        I'm in N. lakeland, you?  I'm a working stiff, so 
          I'm usually only available in the evenings after 6 or on 
          weekends.  

Mike
  

--- On Sat, 5/21/11, 
          Phil Dentler <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com> 
          wrote:

          
From: 
            Phil Dentler <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: 
            Re: Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis
To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com
Date: 
            Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:53 PM


              
            
             
            Mike...just getting home from a show I 
            ran....you can bring the stuff out and we can put it on the 
            bench.....Let me know your sched. Phil
            
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Mike 
              Phillips 
              To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 
              
              Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 
              11:36 PM
              Subject: Re: Fw: 
              [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf analysis
              
  
              
              
              
                
                
                  Phil

I've got two scanners, but 
                    they're both blocked from 512-806MHZ. I didn't pick anything 
                    up from 170-174MHZ from the mic, but didn't really expect to 
                    since it is marked UHF.

I've got a handheld 
                    transceiver, but it is only 144-148MHZ, so I cant test any 
                    transmission ranges to the receiver.

Thanks for your 
                    help so far, any else I could try?  
                    


Mike

    

--- On Sat, 
                    5/21/11, Mike Phillips 
                    <mostsigbit at yahoo.com> wrote:

                    
From: 
                      Mike Phillips <mostsigbit at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 
                      Fw: [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf 
                      analysis
To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com
Date: 
                      Saturday, May 21, 2011, 11:58 AM


                      
                      
                        
                        
                          Phil 
Sorry for the delayed 
                            response... I'm not sure what you or Anchor mean 
                            conflicting, I thought I posted in the original 
                            message these are 'incompatible'.  I want to 
                            know _how_ they are incompatible- eg what did Anchor 
                            change, and can anything be done (by me) to make 'em 
                            work.  I own both and therefore can mod 
                            both.  I observe the mic appears to have a jtag 
                            interface.   I suspect the single rx/tx channel 
                            combo where I can receive, it is simply hitting a 
                            harmonic.  

Thanks for the info about 
                            the freqs, the receiver is s/n  
                            H30000506.  The mic is either s/n 0217376374 or 
                            s/n C3003792.

I'll try to play with the mic 
                            with my scanner and see what I can see, I don't know 
                            why I didn't think of 
                            that...
 
Mike
KJ4UKY
   
                              

--- On Thu, 5/19/11, Phil Dentler 
                            <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

                            
From: 
                              Phil Dentler 
                              <k4bhe at tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Fw: 
                              [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf 
                              analysis
To: 
                              LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 
                              19, 2011, 6:19 PM


                                
                              
                              
                               
                              ----- Original 
                              Message ----- 
                              From: Phil Dentler 
                              To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 

                              Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:08 
                              PM
                              Subject: Re: [LakelandARC] Re: test 
                              equipment for rf analysis
                              
  
                              
                              
                              Mike more info on the 
                              Anchor unit....you list conflicting models and wh 
                              numbers....I know a tech in Anchor Audio and 
                              called him......The eairlier series used Vhf  
                              170MHZ freqs and the later units used 700 MHZ for 
                              a very short time then they switched to 682 to 698 
                              MHZ freqs. Sense our HAM radios or a scanner can 
                              get to these freqs. you can scan them for the most 
                              part. Triple check the model and also the serial 
                              number is the key to nailing down what you 
                              have.....next step is yours....Phil 
                              K4BHE
                              
                                ----- Original 
                                Message ----- 
                                From: Mike 
                                
                                To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 
                                
                                Sent: 
                                Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:59 AM
                                Subject: 
                                [LakelandARC] Re: test equipment for rf 
                                analysis
                                
  
                                
                                
Thanks for responding Phil, here's the 
                                info I have on the Anchor equipment;

The 
                                receiver is integrated into a loudspeaker 
                                MegaVox Pro model MEGA-6000U1. It is set to 
                                wireless channel 9.
The transmitter is a 
                                hand-held wireless microphone model WH-3000. 
                                With the mic set to channel 4, with the 
                                equipment in close physical range (~5-10 feet)I 
                                can get the rx link lights to illuminate on the 
                                receiver and it will demodulate audio as 
                                expected. It doesn't lock onto the signal too 
                                well and will lose the lock often depending on 
                                mic orientation. 
I cannot find any 
                                meaningful documentation on the mfgrs site, but 
                                a call to their support revealed these are not 
                                intended to be compatible. I don't know if the 
                                incompatibility is with the channel 'codes', 
                                modulation technique, or carrier. 

I 
                                don't have physical access to the drive-in 
                                equipment, but swear to myself every time I 
                                visit the drive-in that I will bring up the 
                                topic here, and finally I'm getting around to 
                                it. If your equipment is at all portable, I'd 
                                just like to give the signal a look-see to see 
                                if anything jumps out as being mis-aligned. I've 
                                simply never had a good experience trying to 
                                tune their signal from various locations on the 
                                property using a variety of FM receivers. I 
                                figure if I have problems, everyone else 
                                probably does too. 

Mike 
                                Phillips
KJ4UKY 

--- In LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com, 
                                "Phil Dentler" <k4bhe at ...> 
                                wrote:
>
> Mike...good morning.....I 
                                can help you with both.....I need to know the 
                                channel code on both pieces.....this will tell 
                                us everything we need to know about the pieces 
                                then we will know the next move....I have a 
                                optoelectronics near field receiver that is used 
                                on my bench. The lakeland drive in transmitter 
                                that you want to see is probably a Ramsy 
                                product. I install these and set them up also. 
                                What is the model number and I can tell you your 
                                next move on that also. Phil K4BHE
> ----- 
                                Original Message ----- 
> From: Mike 
                                
> To: LakelandARC at yahoogroups.com 
                                
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:48 
                                AM
> Subject: [LakelandARC] test equipment 
                                for rf analysis
> 
> 
> 
                                
> Greetings
> 
> I've got a 
                                16 channel UHF mic from Anchor anchoraudio.com - 
                                and a 16 channel uhf receiver from the same 
                                company that are incompatible according to the 
                                mfg. I suspect the carrier freq is shifted and 
                                that's why they're 'incompatible'. There is a 
                                single channel where they kinda work, but not 
                                too good. 
> I'd like to look at the 
                                signals and try to figure out what's going on. 
                                All I've got is a 60mhz DSO. I'm looking for a 
                                spectrum analyzer or whatever you've got and 
                                some RF know-how. Anybody wanna try to help 
                                figure this out? 
> A separate project; 
                                I'd really also like to look at the FM signal 
                                for the lakeland drive-in. I suspect simple over 
                                modulation, but would really like to look at the 
                                signal. 
> 
> Mike Phillips
> 
                                KJ4UKY
>


                              
  


    
     



 




    
     

    
    


 



  



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