[LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
usl607
usl607 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 23 08:58:57 PST 2020
Mike and Jim:
I did make an extreme effort to find contact information for the treasurer
in order to contact him directly but, no joy.
So, for me, I will leave it at MERRY CHRISTMAS to the greatest club I have
ever had the privilege of belonging to.
Gary
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:39 AM <cq-request at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:33:26 -0500
> From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
> To: LARC Discussion List <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5
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> Everyone?s entitled to speak their opinion on air, even if I don?t agree
> with it. That said, there?s a pretty well know, if unwritten, understanding
> that religion and politics are best avoided on air. That?s more important
> on the repeater - on HF, you can spin the dial if you don?t like what you
> hear. It?s a little harder to do that on a repeater.
>
> - Matthew nj4y
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 22, 2020, at 17:35, Jimmy Russ via CQ <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Gary,
> >
> > I did not hear the conversation. My statement was based on what you said
> you heard.
> >
> > As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a
> club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject to the
> same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates part 97,
> whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
> >
> > I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I
> say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something they
> hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
> >
> > 73,
> > Jimmy Russ, AB4KA
> > Public Information Officer
> > Lakeland Amateur Radio Club
> >
> >
> > Sent from ProtonMail mobile
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > On Dec 22, 2020, 5:15 PM, usl607 via CQ < cq at lists.lakelandarc.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Jim:
> >
> > Did you feel it wasn't a problem because it was one of our officers, or
> did you hear the statement as it was said?
> >
> > Just asking for all of my friends.
> >
> > Gary, K2OU
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 4:07 PM <cq-request at lists.lakelandarc.org>
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> >> 1. Value of coins (usl607)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:19:25 -0500
> >> From: usl607 <usl607 at gmail.com>
> >> To: cq at lists.lakelandarc.org
> >> Subject: [LARC-CQ] Value of coins
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> >> While I happened to be listening on the repeater today around 1530, I
> heard
> >> something that caught my attention.
> >>
> >> A couple of guys were talking about property such as family memorabilia
> and
> >> its possible value. One of the guys mentioned commemorative coins and
> how
> >> they varied in value. One of the fellows remarked that the coins being
> made
> >> with President Trumps image were just plated copper and wouldn't have
> any
> >> value *unless he was assassinated.*
> >>
> >> I am all for free speech but I felt this was a rather poorly thought out
> >> thing to say particularly at this point in our history.
> >>
> >> -- *Gary, K2OU*
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> >> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 21:32:37 +0000
> >> From: Jimmy Russ <ab4ka at protonmail.com>
> >> To: cq at lists.lakelandarc.org
> >> Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] Value of coins
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> >> Unless someone was actively advocating the assassination of a public
> official (which I'm quite sure would be a violation of F.C.C. rules) I
> don't see the problem. Sounds to me like it was simply a statement of fact.
> >>
> >> While I understand that ham radio is "self-policing", I don't see a
> problem here.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Jimmy Russ, AB4KA
> >> Public Information Officer
> >> Lakeland Amateur Radio Club
> >>
> >> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> On Dec 21, 2020, 4:19 PM, usl607 via CQ wrote:
> >>
> >> > While I happened to be listening on the repeater today around 1530, I
> heard something that caught my attention.
> >> >
> >> > A couple of guys were talking about property such as family
> memorabilia and its possible value. One of the guys mentioned commemorative
> coins and how they varied in value. One of the fellows remarked that the
> coins being made with President Trumps image were just plated copper and
> wouldn't have any value unless he was assassinated.
> >> >
> >> > I am all for free speech but I felt this was a rather poorly thought
> out thing to say particularly at this point in our history.
> >> >
> >> > -- Gary, K2OU
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> From: "Mike Oliver, KT2T" <m at fifo.io>
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> On 2020-12-22T22:35:11+0000, Jimmy Russ via CQ wrote:
> > Gary,
> >
> > As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a
> > club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject
> > to the same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates
> > part 97, whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
>
> I agree with this 100%. Legal speech is permitted at all times
> regardless of intended or perceived offense. The last thing I would want
> is for our repeater to be idle more often than not because folks are
> fearful of saying something that might unintentionally offend others.
>
> > I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I
> > say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something
> > they hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
>
> Indeed, direct communication with the person who you feel has slighted
> you is the best course of action, but please be prepared for that person
> to rebuff your concerns if this is just a matter of you being offended
> and not a matter of an illegal act (which should be taken to the
> appropriate authorities anyway). In my opinion, the least productive
> thing to do is take a personal offense to a mailing list which has the
> potential to divide the group and cause further strife.
>
> As a data network engineer, I've always followed the rule that I should
> be permissive in what I receive and conservative in what I send, and
> I've found that works well with radio communications as well. Statements
> of fact that I may not air myself are not going to get me ruffled when I
> hear them. It's a good policy to just let it ride if it's not illegal,
> and if it is illegal then there are appropriate agencies that should be
> notified.
>
> Best regards,
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Oliver, KT2T
> [see complete headers for contact information]
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:38:34 -0500
> From: Jim Stewart <w4xds at outlook.com>
> To: LARC Discussion List <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org>
> Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5
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> Although not a data network engineer, I would echo KT2T's comments on
> this.
>
> 73's, and have a Merry Christmas and a safe, healthy and happy New Year.
>
> Jim
> W4XDS
>
> W4XDS at outlook.com
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> *I am a Veteran*
> * My Oath of Enlistment*
> *Has No Expiration Date*
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:08 AM Mike Oliver, KT2T via CQ <
> cq at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2020-12-22T22:35:11+0000, Jimmy Russ via CQ wrote:
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a
> > > club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject
> > > to the same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates
> > > part 97, whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
> >
> > I agree with this 100%. Legal speech is permitted at all times
> > regardless of intended or perceived offense. The last thing I would want
> > is for our repeater to be idle more often than not because folks are
> > fearful of saying something that might unintentionally offend others.
> >
> > > I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I
> > > say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something
> > > they hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
> >
> > Indeed, direct communication with the person who you feel has slighted
> > you is the best course of action, but please be prepared for that person
> > to rebuff your concerns if this is just a matter of you being offended
> > and not a matter of an illegal act (which should be taken to the
> > appropriate authorities anyway). In my opinion, the least productive
> > thing to do is take a personal offense to a mailing list which has the
> > potential to divide the group and cause further strife.
> >
> > As a data network engineer, I've always followed the rule that I should
> > be permissive in what I receive and conservative in what I send, and
> > I've found that works well with radio communications as well. Statements
> > of fact that I may not air myself are not going to get me ruffled when I
> > hear them. It's a good policy to just let it ride if it's not illegal,
> > and if it is illegal then there are appropriate agencies that should be
> > notified.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Mike Oliver, KT2T
> > [see complete headers for contact information]
> >
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