[LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7
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Wed Dec 23 10:48:05 PST 2020
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-------- Original message --------From: usl607 via CQ <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org> Date: 12/23/20 11:58 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cq at lists.lakelandarc.org Cc: usl607 <usl607 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7 Mike and Jim:I did make an extreme effort to find contact information for the treasurer in order to contact him directly but, no joy.So, for me, I will leave it at MERRY CHRISTMAS to the greatest club I have ever had the privilege of belonging to.GaryOn Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 11:39 AM <cq-request at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:Send CQ mailing list submissions to
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1. Re: CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 (Matthew Stevens)
2. Re: CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 (Mike Oliver, KT2T)
3. Re: CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5 (Jim Stewart)
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 18:33:26 -0500
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew at mrstevens.net>
To: LARC Discussion List <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org>
Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5
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Everyone?s entitled to speak their opinion on air, even if I don?t agree with it. That said, there?s a pretty well know, if unwritten, understanding that religion and politics are best avoided on air. That?s more important on the repeater - on HF, you can spin the dial if you don?t like what you hear. It?s a little harder to do that on a repeater.
- Matthew nj4y
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> On Dec 22, 2020, at 17:35, Jimmy Russ via CQ <cq at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:
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> ?Gary,
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> I did not hear the conversation. My statement was based on what you said you heard.
>
> As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject to the same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates part 97, whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
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> I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something they hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
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> 73,
> Jimmy Russ, AB4KA
> Public Information Officer
> Lakeland Amateur Radio Club
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> On Dec 22, 2020, 5:15 PM, usl607 via CQ < cq at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:
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> Jim:
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> Did you feel it wasn't a problem because it was one of our officers, or did you hear the statement as it was said?
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> Just asking for all of my friends.
>
> Gary, K2OU
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Value of coins (usl607)
>> 2. Re: Value of coins (Jimmy Russ)
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>> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:19:25 -0500
>> From: usl607 <usl607 at gmail.com>
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>> Subject: [LARC-CQ] Value of coins
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>> While I happened to be listening on the repeater today around 1530, I heard
>> something that caught my attention.
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>> A couple of guys were talking about property such as family memorabilia and
>> its possible value. One of the guys mentioned commemorative coins and how
>> they varied in value. One of the fellows remarked that the coins being made
>> with President Trumps image were just plated copper and wouldn't have any
>> value *unless he was assassinated.*
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>> I am all for free speech but I felt this was a rather poorly thought out
>> thing to say particularly at this point in our history.
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>> -- *Gary, K2OU*
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>> Unless someone was actively advocating the assassination of a public official (which I'm quite sure would be a violation of F.C.C. rules) I don't see the problem. Sounds to me like it was simply a statement of fact.
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>> While I understand that ham radio is "self-policing", I don't see a problem here.
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>> 73,
>> Jimmy Russ, AB4KA
>> Public Information Officer
>> Lakeland Amateur Radio Club
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>> On Dec 21, 2020, 4:19 PM, usl607 via CQ wrote:
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>> > While I happened to be listening on the repeater today around 1530, I heard something that caught my attention.
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>> > A couple of guys were talking about property such as family memorabilia and its possible value. One of the guys mentioned commemorative coins and how they varied in value. One of the fellows remarked that the coins being made with President Trumps image were just plated copper and wouldn't have any value unless he was assassinated.
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>> > I am all for free speech but I felt this was a rather poorly thought out thing to say particularly at this point in our history.
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>> > -- Gary, K2OU
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:07:55 -0500
From: "Mike Oliver, KT2T" <m at fifo.io>
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On 2020-12-22T22:35:11+0000, Jimmy Russ via CQ wrote:
> Gary,
>
> As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a
> club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject
> to the same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates
> part 97, whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
I agree with this 100%. Legal speech is permitted at all times
regardless of intended or perceived offense. The last thing I would want
is for our repeater to be idle more often than not because folks are
fearful of saying something that might unintentionally offend others.
> I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I
> say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something
> they hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
Indeed, direct communication with the person who you feel has slighted
you is the best course of action, but please be prepared for that person
to rebuff your concerns if this is just a matter of you being offended
and not a matter of an illegal act (which should be taken to the
appropriate authorities anyway). In my opinion, the least productive
thing to do is take a personal offense to a mailing list which has the
potential to divide the group and cause further strife.
As a data network engineer, I've always followed the rule that I should
be permissive in what I receive and conservative in what I send, and
I've found that works well with radio communications as well. Statements
of fact that I may not air myself are not going to get me ruffled when I
hear them. It's a good policy to just let it ride if it's not illegal,
and if it is illegal then there are appropriate agencies that should be
notified.
Best regards,
Mike
--
Mike Oliver, KT2T
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 11:38:34 -0500
From: Jim Stewart <w4xds at outlook.com>
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Subject: Re: [LARC-CQ] CQ Digest, Vol 34, Issue 5
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Although not a data network engineer, I would echo KT2T's comments on
this.
73's, and have a Merry Christmas and a safe, healthy and happy New Year.
Jim
W4XDS
W4XDS at outlook.com
*I am a Veteran*
* My Oath of Enlistment*
*Has No Expiration Date*
On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 10:08 AM Mike Oliver, KT2T via CQ <
cq at lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:
> On 2020-12-22T22:35:11+0000, Jimmy Russ via CQ wrote:
> > Gary,
> >
> > As for the parties involved, it doesn't matter whether or not it was a
> > club officer, board member or any other official. We are all subject
> > to the same criteria, which is unless something is said that violates
> > part 97, whether one agrees with it or not, it is fair game.
>
> I agree with this 100%. Legal speech is permitted at all times
> regardless of intended or perceived offense. The last thing I would want
> is for our repeater to be idle more often than not because folks are
> fearful of saying something that might unintentionally offend others.
>
> > I believe I can speak for the officers and other board members when I
> > say we are all adults here. If someone has an issue with something
> > they hear on the repeater, try taking it up with the person directly.
>
> Indeed, direct communication with the person who you feel has slighted
> you is the best course of action, but please be prepared for that person
> to rebuff your concerns if this is just a matter of you being offended
> and not a matter of an illegal act (which should be taken to the
> appropriate authorities anyway). In my opinion, the least productive
> thing to do is take a personal offense to a mailing list which has the
> potential to divide the group and cause further strife.
>
> As a data network engineer, I've always followed the rule that I should
> be permissive in what I receive and conservative in what I send, and
> I've found that works well with radio communications as well. Statements
> of fact that I may not air myself are not going to get me ruffled when I
> hear them. It's a good policy to just let it ride if it's not illegal,
> and if it is illegal then there are appropriate agencies that should be
> notified.
>
> Best regards,
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Oliver, KT2T
> [see complete headers for contact information]
>
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