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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure if this list allows it, but is there any chance you could forward a picture of what you describe below? I am struggling with antenna’s and would like to see your setup.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">73, and thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Chris<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">CQ <cq-bounces@lists.lakelandarc.org> on behalf of J Leahy via CQ <cq@lists.lakelandarc.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>LARC Discussion List <cq@lists.lakelandarc.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 12:55 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>LARC Discussion List <cq@lists.lakelandarc.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>J Leahy <jleahy00@yahoo.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [LARC-CQ] DMR Users in Polk County<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">You are allowed by FCC regulation to have a TV antenna as long as you own the structure. If you place it on a 5ft mast you can then attach an EF with a 9:1 UnUn that is 35.5ft long. An 18-20 ga wire is all you need
for 100w. Mine serves me quite well as I have hit all corners of the US and many European countries at only 5w CW & SB.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Of course your could also install a dipole using the same scheme.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">If your building is not metal the you can also look at your gutters as there are a number of folks doing that also.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Just a few thoughts and hopefully a solution to our common problems.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">John, you are absolutely correct about the antenna being the most important component. For example, I have a great HF radio, IC-7610, but a lousy non-resonant vertical due to HOA restrictions. So it is still
fun to use the 7610 but I can’t do as much with it as I could with a “real” antenna. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Somewhere I have a magnetic mobile antenna and when I get the motivation a will put it outside and use an adapter to connect the 878. Meanwhile I am continuing to learn about different aspects of DMR. Such as
I found out that 3100 is available on the Polk repeater so I added that to the code plug. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Hopefully I will be seeing some of you at club meetings as well as hearing you on the air.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Thanks again to all for the responses and useful information.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif">A simple adapter for the HT and a magnetic mobile antenna mounted on a pizza pan on top of a roof 10ft AGL will get most folks out at least 20-25 miles.
Not much effort and cost for so much more.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif">For years I used a Baofeng UV5R coupled with a flexible J-pole as my base. I could easily hit the Gulf Coast repeaters @ 30-35 miles distant. My best
using that setup in my motorhome was 65 miles to a repeater in Orange, CT. If you are going to rely on your HT antenna 100% of the time, as many do your results will not be very rewarding. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif">The antenna is probably the most important component to a radio. HOAs only make it difficult, not impossible, to have an antenna that will do the job.....
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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:center"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif"><a href="http://www.zaarc.org/" target="_blank">Click Here</a> for Zephyrhills Area Amateur Radio Club<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif;color:#00BF60">Many of life's failures are people who</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"garamond",serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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All other TGs on TS1 are PTT 15 min only. So you will not hear much activity unless someone is on L2, L9 or selects one TG from TS1. Julian’s machines (W4VCO) have different settings. Talkgroups L2, L9, TG8 (The Ridge), and FL SW are on Full time. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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So this is a survey about DMR use.<br>
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Thanks to great help from KB4FHP I have a usable code plug on my DMR handheld and am able to access a local repeater. But my impression so far is that participation is limited. Maybe because I am listening to the wrong talk groups.<br>
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Who on this mailing list uses DMR?<br>
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