<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Chris,<div><br></div><div>Check out the ZAARC.org website project/ antenna. There’s a multitude of antennas and there you will find the end fed. It is a very simple antenna to build and the final cost should be around $10. I have a few toroids , wire both for the toroid and the antenna if we can get together.</div><div><br></div><div>The rain gutter antenna is a commercial offering by Alpha Antenna, you can search them on the Internet.</div><div><br></div><div>My particular EF is set up as an inverted V with the apex 17ft AGL on the roof. I have added a additional 30ft to it as an L sloping to about 9ft.</div><div><br></div><div>If you’re interested contact me at KK4ITX@arrl.Net.</div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div>KK4ITX <br><br><div dir="ltr">🙃Each mistake is a learning opportunity.🙂</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 7, 2022, at 4:12 PM, Jerry Crawford via CQ <cq@lists.lakelandarc.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">John,<div class="">I have successfully used an EFHW antenna in two places and in different configurations. They can work ok but in my limited space lot the vertical is probably a better choice. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For Chris, KO4YAW, there are a few EFHW - End Fed Half Wave antennas available from commercial sources as well as ARRL. Some cover most of the HF bands, some are limited with the band coverage. I have used them starting from a pole 15- 20 ft high and using a slingshot to get a line over a 50 ft tree then drooping over the other side. Which one you get depends on how much land you have and what kind of far end support you have. In one setup the wire turned 70 degrees and came back down to about 20 ft. If you want 80 M you need a longer EFHW for best operation. Feel free to contact me directly for more information and/or a picture.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">73,</div><div class="">Jerry</div><div class="">K7UPJ<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, J Leahy via CQ <<a href="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" class="">cq@lists.lakelandarc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Jerry,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You are allowed by FCC regulation to have a TV antenna as long as you own the structure. If you place it on a 5ft mast you can then attach an EF with a 9:1 UnUn that is 35.5ft long. An 18-20 ga wire is all you need for 100w. Mine serves me quite well as I have hit all corners of the US and many European countries at only 5w CW & SB.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course your could also install a dipole using the same scheme.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If your building is not metal the you can also look at your gutters as there are a number of folks doing that also.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Just a few thoughts and hopefully a solution to our common problems.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">73,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class="">KK4ITX <br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">🙃Each mistake is a learning opportunity.🙂</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 7, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Jerry Crawford via CQ <<a href="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" class="">cq@lists.lakelandarc.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">John, you are absolutely correct about the antenna being the most important component. For example, I have a great HF radio, IC-7610, but a lousy non-resonant vertical due to HOA restrictions. So it is still fun to use the 7610 but I can’t do as much with it as I could with a “real” antenna. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Somewhere I have a magnetic mobile antenna and when I get the motivation a will put it outside and use an adapter to connect the 878. Meanwhile I am continuing to learn about different aspects of DMR. Such as I found out that 3100 is available on the Polk repeater so I added that to the code plug. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hopefully I will be seeing some of you at club meetings as well as hearing you on the air.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks again to all for the responses and useful information.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">73,</div><div class="">Jerry</div><div class="">K7UPJ<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 6, 2022, at 12:52 PM, John Leahy via CQ <<a href="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" class="">cq@lists.lakelandarc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydp68cea9ffyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Jerry,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">A simple adapter for the HT and a magnetic mobile antenna mounted on a pizza pan on top of a roof 10ft AGL will get most folks out at least 20-25 miles. Not much effort and cost for so much more.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">For years I used a Baofeng UV5R coupled with a flexible J-pole as my base. I could easily hit the Gulf Coast repeaters @ 30-35 miles distant. My best using that setup in my motorhome was 65 miles to a repeater in Orange, CT. If you are going to rely on your HT antenna 100% of the time, as many do your results will not be very rewarding. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">The antenna is probably the most important component to a radio. HOAs only make it difficult, not impossible, to have an antenna that will do the job..... even for HF.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">John</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">KK4ITX</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Zephyrhills</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="ydp68cea9ffsignature"><div align="center" class=""><br class=""></div><div align="center" class=""><br class=""></div><div align="center" class=""><a href="http://www.zaarc.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">Click Here</a> for Zephyrhills Area Amateur Radio Club</div><div align="center" class=""><font color="#00bf60" size="2" class=""><b class="">Many of life's failures are people who</b></font></div><div align="center" class=""><b class=""><font color="#00bf60" size="2" class="">did not realize how close they were to</font></b></div><div align="center" class=""><b class=""><font color="#00bf60" size="2" class="">success when they gave up.</font></b></div><div align="center" class=""><b class=""><font size="1" class=""><img src="http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/14.gif" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" class="" data-unique-identifier=""> Thomas A. 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<div class=""><div id="yiv0622677445" class=""><div class="">Thanks everyone for the great information.<div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><div class="yiv0622677445">I appears that the only DMR repeater I can access is the Polk City W4VCO, which does not have 3100.</div><div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><div class="yiv0622677445">I have been told there is a Repeater Not Found message on the 878 when a repeater cannot be accessed but I have not seen that even for repeaters that are far away.</div><div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><div class="yiv0622677445">73,</div><div class="yiv0622677445">Jerry</div><div class="yiv0622677445">K7UPJ<br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"><div class=""><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"><blockquote type="cite" class="yiv0622677445"><div id="yiv0622677445yqtfd14172" class="yiv0622677445yqt2114127286"><div class="yiv0622677445">On Apr 5, 2022, at 10:07 AM, John Sherwood via CQ <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" class="yiv0622677445">cq@lists.lakelandarc.org</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv0622677445"><div class="yiv0622677445">I use DMR weekly. I talk mostly with some locals on the Lakeland FDARN machine (.775) on TG L9. Sometimes I’m on the W4VCO Welcome machine for L2 and 3112 FL SW. </div><div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><div class="yiv0622677445">About activity on the machines, keep in mind on the Lakeland FDARN machine, only Local 2 and Local 9 on TS2 are the only ones on full time. All other TGs on TS1 are PTT 15 min only. So you will not hear much activity unless someone is on L2, L9 or selects one TG from TS1. Julian’s machines (W4VCO) have different settings. Talkgroups L2, L9, TG8 (The Ridge), and FL SW are on Full time. </div><div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><div class="yiv0622677445">Thanks very much, </div><div class="yiv0622677445">John Sherwood</div><div class="yiv0622677445">W4JFS</div><div class="yiv0622677445"><br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"><div class="yiv0622677445gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv0622677445gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 7:09 AM Jerry Crawford via CQ <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:cq@lists.lakelandarc.org" class="yiv0622677445">cq@lists.lakelandarc.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);" class="yiv0622677445gmail_quote">Since the LARC Facebook group has been discontinued this is a test to see what kind of response there might be from the mailing list.<br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445">
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So this is a survey about DMR use.<br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445">
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Thanks to great help from KB4FHP I have a usable code plug on my DMR handheld and am able to access a local repeater. But my impression so far is that participation is limited. Maybe because I am listening to the wrong talk groups.<br clear="none" class="yiv0622677445">
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